Well, this could get interesting.

[nicolas10]

...but the Founders expressly tried to both avoid any over links to the Government, and before that was established, were very open to a host of religions on these shores.

Exactly, because: "And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar's, and unto God the things which be God's."

Dumbass.

Nic

[nicolas10]

Now, France has a different history, and has been far more culturally homogeneous for the past millenium or so, right to the end of WW II. However, they, too had a need for large-scale immigration(most Euro nations did) due to the population depletion from two World Wars. What Nic observes, along with many others throughout Europe, is the fact that it took several decades after that initial rush of immigrants for the beginnings of assimilation to occur, and it isn't an easy process. Not surprisingly, Nic sees sinister plots in this.....I don't. I just see human nature at work.

This bit here shows how little you understand the issues with immigration in France.

Originally people from north africa came to work in france a few years, send money back and then moved back. The bulk of the immigration happened way after the 50s and 60s, after there was double digit unemployment rates, because of the "loi de regroupement familial" which was voted IIRC around 74, when there was absolutely no need for foreign workers anymore. But even then never did as many migrants come in france as under sarkozy only a few years back, and nowadays... french people don't vote right so they need to add more migrants. Oh and they're trying to give the right to vote to foreigners who live in France now.

[callmeslick]

what is wrong with any residents voting, Nic? In the US, any resident could vote here until around 1910, whether they were a citizen or not. It worked well.

[Pudfark]

what is wrong with any residents voting, Nic? In the US, any resident could vote here until around 1910, whether they were a citizen or not. It worked well.

This is one of the top ten most stupid things...you've ever said/written here.

[callmeslick]

except, it is factually true, Pud. You didn't have to be a US citizen to vote in US elections in the late 19th century.

[HappyHappy]

except, it is factually true, Pud. You didn't have to be a US citizen to vote in US elections in the late 19th century.

But you are still obviously stupid.

HH

[Pudfark]

except, it is factually true, Pud. You didn't have to be a US citizen to vote in US elections in the late 19th century.

Didn't have to have a photo I.D.....either.
With statements like that quoted above....we've definitely gone from a nation of "immigrants" to a nation of "ignorants"/"ignorance".

Yup, looking back at yer described "good old days"....the time when some folks had a "vacum cleaner" named "Tyrone" and he wasn't allowed to vote...though, he was allowed to "reside". Then later on...he was allowed to pay a "poll tax". Then after that, he was allowed to sell his vote in exchange fer "freebies" promised by the Democrats. So, ya advocate...going "full circle"?

[callmeslick]

...but the Founders expressly tried to both avoid any over links to the Government, and before that was established, were very open to a host of religions on these shores.

Exactly, because: "And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar's, and unto God the things which be God's."

Dumbass.

Nic

actually, that had NOTHING to do with the matter.

[Pudfark]

except, it is factually true, Pud. You didn't have to be a US citizen to vote in US elections in the late 19th century.

Oh? The good old days...."flash mob" voting......that sorta thing went out with lynching...or? Do ya advocate that too?

Old Pudfark sez: " Sorta like hand n glove and neck n noose.... "

[nicolas10]

actually, that had NOTHING to do with the matter.

lol

Nic