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What I find laughable..is the "false indignation" that R_D and Slick are manifesting. :lol:

Note DH...the double posts of them two and the one minute time in between their posts. :lol:

R_D @ Sun May 04, 2014 9:02 pm
R_D @ Sun May 04, 2014 9:03 pm

Slick @ Mon May 05, 2014 7:42 am
Slick @ Mon May 05, 2014 7:43 am

Now, everybody can have a chuckle..... ;)
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callmeslick wrote:oh, and if they slapped the Ten Commandment monument there, the Satanic statue deserves to be there, too.
So let's put this into context. You condone putting a statue of the father of all that is evil in this world with children by his side, so that would mean you would be ok with a statue of Hitler standing with his foot on the neck of a Jew, a KKK member in sheet and hood with a black man on his knees in chains? Your bigotry and hatred for God and Christians is showing, better pull your skirt back down!
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Darkhorse wrote:
callmeslick wrote:oh, and if they slapped the Ten Commandment monument there, the Satanic statue deserves to be there, too.
So let's put this into context.
oh, please, let's!!
You condone putting a statue of the father of all that is evil in this world with children by his side, so that would mean you would be ok with a statue of Hitler standing with his foot on the neck of a Jew, a KKK member in sheet and hood with a black man on his knees in chains?
well, since context is your thing, I am suggesting that if we are going to allow recognized religions to put up monuments in good taste, that would qualify. I can't see anything overtly violent about the statue suggested, do you(without your imagination running off with some ideal of 'Satan')? Further, what religion would be promoted or commemorated with your suggested images of violence and oppression? Hell, there's been plenty of violence and oppression done in the name of Christianity....interesting, both of YOUR suggested images are sick derivations of Christianity.
Your bigotry and hatred for God and Christians is showing, better pull your skirt back down!
better go look up WHOSE religion got us that whole Ten Commandments thing to start with, because it WASN'T Christianity. In this great country, I am quite free to not believe your God exists, beyond that, I have no hatred whatsoever. Hating imaginary stuff is sort of crazy, frankly.
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Seems....Slick's "put out".... No NAMBLA statue.....yet. ;)
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I can't see anything overtly violent about the statue suggested, do you.....
Satan represents the bondage and death of man!
Further, what religion would be promoted or commemorated with your suggested images of violence and oppression?
Bondage and death!
Hell, there's been plenty of violence and oppression done in the name of Christianity....interesting, both of YOUR suggested images are sick derivations of Christianity.
Doing it behind the name of Christianity does not make it Christianity!
better go look up WHOSE religion got us that whole Ten Commandments thing to start with, because it WASN'T Christianity.
So who do you think gave Moses the Ten Commandments?
In this great country, I am quite free to not believe your God exists,
Very true.
I have no hatred whatsoever.

The very reason this thread was posted and your pushing it down the road was to incite hate toward the members here that are Christian!
Hating imaginary stuff is sort of crazy, frankly.
See above.
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Darkhorse wrote:
I can't see anything overtly violent about the statue suggested, do you.....
Satan represents the bondage and death of man!
to you
So who do you think gave Moses the Ten Commandments?
the God of the Jews, if you believe the story.
The very reason this thread was posted and your pushing it down the road was to incite hate toward the members here that are Christian!
how so? Just because you get your panties in a bunch doesn't mean that was my intent, DH.
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oh, and to clarify for DH, My point had NOTHING to do with denigrating anyone. My point is that our nation should have no place, nor need, to put
goofy-assed religious monuments on PUBLIC property. Not Christian, nor Buddist, nor Rastafarian, nor Muslim, nor Satanist. NOTHING. That DH gets so offended points out WHY I feel this way. If he is going to get offended by a Satanist monument, who's to say that a Muslim might be offended by Judeo/Christian laws? Why not have a momument with Koranic verses? There were, after all, a handful of Muslims here in the pre-Colonial period. Why not a massive statue commemorating the Native American gods? Heck, they were here first. You see, folks get VERY sensitive over religion, and that is why the founders(many of whom descended from folks who paid a dear price for their faith, at the hands of the authorities)wanted to steer very clear of ANY State involvement with religion. Statues on the government space can be(rightly) seen as an endorsement and/or approval by the State. That is UN-American. The Ten Commandments should NEVER have been put there. My only point was that if we are to allow that, it's open season for any other group, and to deny any of those others is to discriminate upon religion. I avoid the obvious about atheists being offended by any of these, but......
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"One Nation under God".....that's why. :)
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callmeslick wrote:to you
Google is your friend!
callmeslick wrote:the God of the Jews, if you believe the story.
Your ignorance is very large in this area.
callmeslick wrote:how so? Just because you get your panties in a bunch doesn't mean that was my intent, DH.
The words you choose to make your point gives me that perception.
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callmeslick wrote:oh, and to clarify for DH, My point had NOTHING to do with denigrating anyone.
Most of your posts of late are mostly that!
callmeslick wrote:My point is that our nation should have no place, nor need, to put goofy-assed religious monuments on PUBLIC property. Not Christian, nor Buddist, nor Rastafarian, nor Muslim, nor Satanist. NOTHING.
There is definitely a need but as I have said before this Country is headed straight down the shitter.
callmeslick wrote:That DH gets so offended points out WHY I feel this way. If he is going to get offended by a Satanist monument, who's to say that a Muslim might be offended by Judeo/Christian laws?
No offence here, my point is the difference between the two.
callmeslick wrote:Why not have a momument with Koranic verses? There were, after all, a handful of Muslims here in the pre-Colonial period. Why not a massive statue commemorating the Native American gods? Heck, they were here first. You see, folks get VERY sensitive over religion, and that is why the founders(many of whom descended from folks who paid a dear price for their faith, at the hands of the authorities)wanted to steer very clear of ANY State involvement with religion.
There is a big difference between a state sponsored religion and principles of a religion guiding a state.
callmeslick wrote:Statues on the government space can be(rightly) seen as an endorsement and/or approval by the State. That is UN-American. The Ten Commandments should NEVER have been put there. My only point was that if we are to allow that, it's open season for any other group, and to deny any of those others is to discriminate upon religion. I avoid the obvious about atheists being offended by any of these, but......
Just more progressive talking points.
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