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34 vs 12

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:53 pm
by Pudfark
These Are The States With The Best And Worst School Systems, According To New Rankings

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/0 ... d%3D511533

"Scroll over each state to see its ranking."

Texas is ranked at #12 and Delaware is ranked at #34.
Not a bad showing fer Delaware.... ;)

The worst were Nevada...Louisiana.

Re: 34 vs 12

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:54 pm
by Reservoir_Dog
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Re: 34 vs 12

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:07 pm
by callmeslick
commentary sums up why this is a sort of odd-seeming list. I have nothing to add to that long list of comments.

Re: 34 vs 12

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:12 am
by callmeslick
A deeper look shows a really odd metric set being used(hope I'm not going over your head here, Pud). They weigh stuff like reported bullying rate(huh?), teacher to student ratios, without regard to other staffing levels nor minimum education requirements for teachers . I could go on, but now understand why all the respondants to the article were going 'Huh?'. At any rate, I took the time to look at a lot of other rankings for the past decade, and it seems that Texas and Delaware, despite size differentials, run pretty much even, at the middle of the pack. I saw Texas ranked from 12th to 36th, Delaware from 16th to 35th. Do you have a point, or were you simply desperate to dispel the notion your words foster that the average Texan is a moron, no smarter than a magnolia and way ugiier?
Are you feeling insecure that your state insists on teaching creationism in Science textbooks? What is the real importance of this thread?


bottom line with education is the socioeconomic status of the children in the system. Always has been, always will be the only accurate determiner of success.

Re: 34 vs 12

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:30 am
by Pudfark
callmeslick wrote:A deeper look shows a really odd metric set being used(hope I'm not going over your head here, Pud). They weigh stuff like reported bullying rate(huh?), teacher to student ratios, without regard to other staffing levels nor minimum education requirements for teachers . I could go on, but now understand why all the respondants to the article were going 'Huh?'. At any rate, I took the time to look at a lot of other rankings for the past decade, and it seems that Texas and Delaware, despite size differentials, run pretty much even, at the middle of the pack. I saw Texas ranked from 12th to 36th, Delaware from 16th to 35th. Do you have a point, or were you simply desperate to dispel the notion your words foster that the average Texan is a moron, no smarter than a magnolia and way ugiier?
Are you feeling insecure that your state insists on teaching creationism in Science textbooks? What is the real importance of this thread?


bottom line with education is the socioeconomic status of the children in the system. Always has been, always will be the only accurate determiner of success.
:lol: "bottom line with education is the socioeconomic status of the children in the system. Always has been, always will be the only accurate determiner of success." :lol:

Factor in another...so far...this year...60000 illegal kids...homeless, no education, parent less, job less....and yer feckless statement. ;)

Re: 34 vs 12

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:35 am
by callmeslick
first off, please provide evidence as to how many of those kids are going to enter the Texas system, and second, what percentage of all kids that number you locate will make.
Next, bear in mind that Delaware has a ton of private schools, which definitely alters the demographics of the public schools to a lower economic average. In my neighborhood, I'd guess that about 1/3 of all the children go to public school(which is well regarded), 1/3 go to Catholic, Protestant or Jewish religious schools and the rest go to private(prep)schools, which pull a tuition around $30,000 per year or upwards.

Re: 34 vs 12

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:27 am
by Pudfark
callmeslick wrote:first off, please provide evidence as to how many of those kids are going to enter the Texas system, and second, what percentage of all kids that number you locate will make.
Next, bear in mind that Delaware has a ton of private schools, which definitely alters the demographics of the public schools to a lower economic average. In my neighborhood, I'd guess that about 1/3 of all the children go to public school(which is well regarded), 1/3 go to Catholic, Protestant or Jewish religious schools and the rest go to private(prep)schools, which pull a tuition around $30,000 per year or upwards.
Thanks fer making my point. 8-)