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Save Obama or Save 3.7 billion bucks ?

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:42 pm
by Pudfark
Sarah Palin Calls For Obama's Impeachment

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/0 ... 67401.html

Re: Save Obama or Save 3.7 billion bucks ?

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:47 pm
by callmeslick
hilarious. This from a woman who couldn't find the integrity to finish the job she got herself elected to do. Nothing to see here but sour grapes.

Re: Save Obama or Save 3.7 billion bucks ?

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 4:02 pm
by Pudfark
callmeslick wrote:hilarious. This from a woman who couldn't find the integrity to finish the job she got herself elected to do. Nothing to see here but sour grapes and my whine.
Fixed for ya.

Now on that 3.7 billion thingy..."seems Obama's on his knees in front of the big Boehner". :lol:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/0 ... 67258.html

Old Pudfark sez: " Sucks to be Obama, right now. "

Re: Save Obama or Save 3.7 billion bucks ?

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 5:10 pm
by callmeslick
gee, Pud, don't you grasp anything? Here's the sequence:

1 Boehner threatens lawsuit over exec orders
2. Obama notes that Congress does nothing, making addressing problems via exec orders necessary
(note-Obama has fewer exec orders than Bush or Clinton)
3.Boehner cries
4.Obama repeats- 'Do something, Congress'
5. Obama submits request for 3.4 billion bucks to fund Border security upgrades

now, if Boehner agrees, good......maybe some good will come of it.
If he doesn't, more ammo for Obama as he hits the road before election cycle gets into full gear, painting GOP House as do-nothings.

Win,Win for Obama. And, as has been the case, win, win for the citizens.

Re: Save Obama or Save 3.7 billion bucks ?

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:24 am
by Pudfark
Geezus.....Slick are ya really that dull witted? Really?

WTF... "5. Obama submits request for 3.4 billion bucks to fund Border security upgrades"
:lol: You really are the "village idiot".
Go ahead, I dare you....break down where and who, the funding will go?
That's a "double dog" dare...if'n ya understand the meaning?

Old Pudfark sez: " nope, he won't do it....he'll call ya names, instead. "

Re: Save Obama or Save 3.7 billion bucks ?

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:15 am
by callmeslick
well, the breakdown is this: 1.6 billion for Border staffing and increased security, 800 million for Immigration and Customs staffing to handle increased workload,
300 million for State to reinforce messages about dangers in Central America, and around 900 million to provide more humane conditions for those who have arrived, and will continue to arrive unless Central America gets their act together.

Where is your problem with doing ANY of these?

Re: Save Obama or Save 3.7 billion bucks ?

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:41 am
by Pudfark
callmeslick wrote:well, the breakdown is this: 1.6 billion for Border staffing and increased security, 800 million for Immigration and Customs staffing to handle increased workload,
300 million for State to reinforce messages about dangers in Central America, and around 900 million to provide more humane conditions for those who have arrived, and will continue to arrive unless Central America gets their act together.

Where is your problem with doing ANY of these?
:lol: Fecking hilarious.....did the above...washout of yer shorts?

Funding request breakdown via the White House:
The Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement - $1.1 billion
This proposal would provide the Department of Homeland Security a total of $1.1 billion for Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). Of this total:
- $116 million would pay for transportation costs associated with the significant rise in apprehensions of unaccompanied children;
- $109 million would provide for immigration and customs enforcement efforts, including expanding the Border Enforcement Security Task Force program, doubling the size of vetted units in El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras, and expanding investigatory activities by ICE Homeland Security Investigations; and
- $879 million would pay for detention and removal of apprehended undocumented adults traveling with children, expansion of alternatives to detention programs for these individuals, and additional prosecution capacity for adults with children who cross the border unlawfully.

The Department of Homeland Security, Customs and Border Protection - $433 million
This proposal would provide the Department of Homeland Security a total of $433 million for Customs and Border Protection (CBP). Of this total:
- $364 million would pay for operational costs of responding to the significant rise in apprehensions of unaccompanied children and families, including overtime and temporary duty costs for Border Patrol agents, contract services and facility costs to care for children while in CBP custody, and medical and transportation service arrangements;
- $29 million for CBP to expand its role in Border Enforcement Security Task Force programs, increasing information-sharing and collaboration among the participating law enforcement agencies combatting transnational crime; and
- $39.4 million to increase air surveillance capabilities that would support 16,526 additional flight hours for border surveillance and 16 additional crews for unmanned aerial systems to improve detection and interdiction of illegal activity.

The Department of Justice - $64 million
This proposal would provide the Department of Justice a total of $64 million. Of the total:
$45.4 million would be to hire approximately 40 additional immigration judge teams, including those anticipated to be hired on a temporary basis. This funding would also expand courtroom capacity including additional video conferencing and other equipment in support of the additional immigration judge teams. These additional resources, when combined with the FY 2015 Budget request for 35 additional teams, would provide sufficient capacity to process an additional 55,000 to 75,000 cases annually.
- $2.5 million would be used to expand the legal orientation program that provides assistance to adults and custodians of children in the immigration court system.
- $15 million to provide direct legal representation services to children in immigration proceedings.
- $1.1 million to hire additional immigration litigation attorneys to support Federal agencies involved in detainee admission, regulation, and removal actions.

Department of State and Other International Programs - $300 million
This proposal would provide $300 million to the Department of State. Of the total:
- $295 million would support efforts to repatriate and reintegrate migrants to Central America, to help the governments in the region better control their borders, and to address the underlying root causes driving migration, i.e. creating the economic, social, governance, and citizen security conditions to address factors that are contributing to significant increases in migration to the United States. Beyond initial assistance, continued funding for repatriation and reintegration activities will be contingent on sustained progress and cooperation by the Central American countries.
- $5 million would support State Department media campaigns in Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras, targeting potential migrants and their families. The campaigns will emphasize the dangers of the journey, deliver the message that unaccompanied children are not given a permit to stay in the U.S., and highlight a shared community responsibility for the welfare of unaccompanied children. Funds would also support youth programs to develop skills and leadership among potential migrants.

The Department of Health and Human Services - $1.8 billion
This proposal would provide an additional $1.8 billion for HHS to provide the appropriate care for unaccompanied children, consistent with Federal law, while maintaining services for refugees. With these funds, HHS will have the resources to be able to care for the children currently projected to come into the custody of the Department of Homeland Security while putting in place more stable, cost-effective arrangements for these children going forward. The proposal would also support the ongoing HHS medical response activities for unaccompanied children to address the surge at Border Patrol facilities.
Without supplemental funding, absent undertaking extraordinary measures, agencies will not have sufficient resources to adequately address this situation. HHS will be unable to address the influx of children by securing sufficient shelter capacity with the number of children held at Border Patrol stations continuing to increase, for longer periods of time. Going forward, HHS will be unable to set-up more stable, cost-effective arrangements for these children, Border Patrol agents will have to be re-assigned to child care duties from their border security work, and ICE will lack the resources needed to sufficiently expand detention and removal capacity for adults with children who cross the border illegally. In addition, without additional funds, DOJ will be unable to keep pace with its growing caseload, leading to longer wait times for those cases already on the docket. And absent dedicated resources in Central American countries, we will not make progress on the larger drivers of this humanitarian crisis. For these reasons, supplemental resources are urgently needed to continue forward with the aggressive response that the Administration has deployed to date.

Old Pudfark sez: " Joe Friday said it best....'Just the facts Ma'm'... "

Re: Save Obama or Save 3.7 billion bucks ?

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:45 am
by callmeslick
and I repeat, what part do you object to? The part where it was Obama's idea, and Congress will, as always do nothing?

Re: Save Obama or Save 3.7 billion bucks ?

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:53 am
by Pudfark
Feck Obama and his "manufactured" problems.
If this is "so" important to him and ewe.....Why is he in Texas "Fun Raisin"?
Hell, he cares so little...he won't go down to the border....that border that's so safe and secure for the rest of us/US.
Then you come to his rescue with a shit sammy of supposed "facts" that ain't true.
You really tickle me with your inanities. :lol:

Old Pudfark sez: " the better word is disingenuous . "

Congress shouldn't give him a dime or the time. 8-)

Re: Save Obama or Save 3.7 billion bucks ?

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:52 pm
by Pudfark
callmeslick wrote:and I repeat, what part do you object to? The part where it was Obama's idea, and Congress will, as always do nothing?
Here's some more of the "Why":

The scene - AP “All through the night, government buses idle near the border wall — a mile or two from the river — awaiting loads of immigrants. The zone is patrolled by no fewer than six local, state and federal law-enforcement agencies, including gunboats crewed by Texas state troopers with night-vision goggles and the Border Patrol's white and green trucks. Helicopters swoop above the winding waterway. But there's little cat-and-mouse pursuit. Every day, hundreds of immigrants walk up to agents, wave to their remote cameras or simply wait to be picked up on the side of a road…”

I'll put that in "english" for ya....you've got more folks driving the buses than ya do holding the hordes back. That's why ya ain't gonna get no dough from the congress. ;)