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Re: Insurance Update
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:54 am
by callmeslick
HappyHappy wrote:Dance child, Dance I say!
It is you that is an idiot.
You are a puppet and I am the puppet master!
I made you return to this forum, and you obeyed!
DANCE!
HH
idiot, I am merely being true to my word. I made a promise to Pud, I kept it. Manning up is likely a lost concept on you, but.......

Re: Insurance Update
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:57 am
by HappyHappy
callmeslick wrote:HappyHappy wrote:Dance child, Dance I say!
It is you that is an idiot.
You are a puppet and I am the puppet master!
I made you return to this forum, and you obeyed!
DANCE!
HH
idiot, I am merely being true to my word. I made a promise to Pud, I kept it. Manning up is likely a lost concept on you, but.......

Empty words from a Keyboard coward.
HH
Re: Insurance Update
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:59 am
by Pudfark
callmeslick wrote:HappyHappy wrote:Dance child, Dance I say!
It is you that is an idiot.
You are a puppet and I am the puppet master!
I made you return to this forum, and you obeyed!
DANCE!
HH
idiot, I am merely being true to my word. I made a promise to Pud, I kept it. Manning up is likely a lost concept on you, but.......

You did keep it. Salute.
You do believe that 5.5 + million folks are going to be signed up/enrolled/premiums paid in the next 8 days. I don't.
Re: Insurance Update
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:02 pm
by callmeslick
Pudfark wrote:You do believe that 5.5 + million folks are going to be signed up/enrolled/premiums paid in the next 8 days. I don't.
nor do I, don't get me wrong......however, I do think that they will get signed up by March 1 and all those that have current plans will be continued until that point.
Re: Insurance Update
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:15 pm
by Pudfark
The health plans they had were canceled because they become "illegal" under the law.
Obama cannot legally change the law, by himself. Congress is gone until after the first of the year.
With out a signature from both parties, insured and insurer, no contract/policy exists, not to mention a premium paid. Will be interesting to see? How? Obama makes a third party responsible for all of this?
Executive Order? That's illegal.
So, again, what's the "real" plan?
The "apparent" plan is they are all fecked.
Legally.
Re: Insurance Update
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:19 pm
by callmeslick
Pudfark wrote:The health plans they had were canceled because they become "illegal" under the law.
Obama cannot legally change the law, by himself. Congress is gone until after the first of the year.
With out a signature from both parties, insured and insurer, no contract/policy exists, not to mention a premium paid. Will be interesting to see? How? Obama makes a third party responsible for all of this?
Executive Order? That's illegal.
So, again, what's the "real" plan?
The "apparent" plan is they are all fecked.
Legally.
what I 'suspect' will happen is that the Administration does have the power to grandfather old policies, as do individual states. Now, I'm not sure of this, but that is how I guess it will work. Going along with this, I think you will see some states(Blue, primarily) be VERY cooperative and some(Red) making sure that people get fecked, as they already have with Medicaid and other stuff. That will become a major point in the next election, by the way.
Re: Insurance Update
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:32 pm
by Pudfark
I carefully read what you wrote above. So, you're saying Obama, on his own authority, can make law.
I say absolutely, he cannot. You're saying individual states can defy the law or change the law in their state in 8 days and still be in compliance. Meaning, they will assume the debt/bills/financial responsibility for an unsigned, not agreed upon terms/conditions to be stated later and some unknown time by an unknown authority? Which plan will these folks get and be mandated to pay for? Gold/Platinum/Silver/Bronze or Medicaid?
I do believe, respectfully and sincerely that you don't understand the enormity, complexity and legality of what you say can be.
Just sayin'
Re: Insurance Update
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:13 pm
by callmeslick
Pudfark wrote:I carefully read what you wrote above. So, you're saying Obama, on his own authority, can make law.
no, he can enforce or change regulation under the law.
Re: Insurance Update
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:45 pm
by HappyHappy
callmeslick wrote:Pudfark wrote:I carefully read what you wrote above. So, you're saying Obama, on his own authority, can make law.
no, he can enforce or change regulation under the law.
Dictatorship of the proletariat.
This is what you "Democrats" want, authoritarian Communist rule. Marxism.
Dictatorship of the haters in your case.
HH
Re: Insurance Update
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:26 pm
by callmeslick
HappyHappy wrote:Dictatorship of the proletariat.
This is what you "Democrats" want, authoritarian Communist rule. Marxism.
Dictatorship of the haters in your case.
HH
I'd ask you to explain if I thought, for one second, you had the first clue what any of that means....
