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Re: What led to the rise of nazism is happening again in Eur

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:44 am
by callmeslick
nicolas10 wrote:The multiculutralist doctrine is aimed at "balkanising" our societies, in order to turn people against each other. While the very reach can continue to reign unharmed.

Nic
I would disagree, Nic, and here is my take: The multicultural society is almost a given in an increasingly globalized economy and modern communication system. For example, when I was a young man(far too long ago), the chances that you, Soapy, Pud, and Juha could exchange opinions and thinking so quickly and readily with me would have been unthinkable. The world has changed, for better and worse. Thus, no one 'aimed' this change at anything. It simply occurred via technological advance. That societies become 'balkanized' is no ones fault beyond the citizenry of those societies. People don't have to turn against one another, it's simply that they tend to under economic stress, as that is the EASY way out. That the well-to-do avoid such issues isn't their fault,they are simply smart enough to avoid working against their own self-interest. If the workers did likewise, politics would have to reflect that, and the problems you fear would be diminished.

Re: What led to the rise of nazism is happening again in Eur

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:40 pm
by nicolas10
Such BS that I don't know where the fuck I would start to adress it... So I'll let it slide.

Nic

Re: What led to the rise of nazism is happening again in Eur

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:49 pm
by callmeslick
nicolas10 wrote:Such BS that I don't know where the fuck I would start to adress it... So I'll let it slide.

Nic
duck and run, IMO. Call it BS and then run like a pussy from addressing what are very valid points of view on my part? Nice. Just because I don't buy into your lazy-assed reasoning that someone is out to make your life difficult, or that of your society doesn't make my points BS.

Re: What led to the rise of nazism is happening again in Eur

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:54 pm
by callmeslick
Here you go, Nic. I'll break it down into parts. Feel free to address each or any you find to be 'BS':
callmeslick wrote: The multicultural society is almost a given in an increasingly globalized economy and modern communication system.
Thus, no one 'aimed' this change at anything. It simply occurred via technological advance.
That societies become 'balkanized' is no ones fault beyond the citizenry of those societies. People don't have to turn against one another, it's simply that they tend to under economic stress, as that is the EASY way out.
That the well-to-do avoid such issues isn't their fault,they are simply smart enough to avoid working against their own self-interest.
If the workers did likewise, politics would have to reflect that, and the problems you fear would be diminished.

Re: What led to the rise of nazism is happening again in Eur

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:30 pm
by Juha
"overtly PC laws" <- one thing that I've become to hate in the recent years. Therefore I'm honing my trollin' ;)

Re: What led to the rise of nazism is happening again in Eur

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:58 pm
by HappyHappy
nicolas10 wrote:Such BS that I don't know where the fuck I would start to adress it... So I'll let it slide.

Nic

Nic, I sense a language barrier of sorts.
At issue here is the maggot whom posted that crap
and his followers. I think you are to smart to believe
David Duke's bullshit. He comes across in a sensable way
to catch the unaware by suprise, here the language barrier may be an issue again.

David Duke is all about hate, nothing more, nothing less.

HH

Re: What led to the rise of nazism is happening again in Eur

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:59 am
by nicolas10
callmeslick wrote:The multicultural society is almost a given in an increasingly globalized economy and modern communication system.
Not an argument. Only something you think as a fact, but with no arguments behind it. I beleive that one should fight against multicultralism and against globalization.
Thus, no one 'aimed' this change at anything. It simply occurred via technological advance.
Most changes have been advanced by NGOs or interest groups, quite often financed by such philantropical organisations as the Rockefeller foundation. You find the rockefeller foundation behind EVERY major feminist, or gay movement in the US, and behind the whole "sexual liberation" business. That's just an example but this is going on as of this day in France with the FEMEN, a group of Ukrainian bitches (the sole french member is actually a real prostitute) who are paint to wreck catholic demonstrations against gay marriage in France. They set up the place of the attack so the journalists wait there with cameras, and they come naked and assault the demonstrators and they start yelling like harpies when one of the few guys bitch slap them in the face after they throw stuff at them and harrass them. Those prostitutes are paid more than 1000$ a month, and all their expenses to come to France and do their shit is paid for too. By whom?
That societies become 'balkanized' is no ones fault beyond the citizenry of those societies. People don't have to turn against one another, it's simply that they tend to under economic stress, as that is the EASY way out.
1, its patently false, the societies are balkanized because of the policies of their leaders who are, in the case of Europe, not even elected, since European unelected technocrats produce 80% of the new laws in the EU, and they are copy/paste of the laws lobbies want them to pass. Which is exactly why the bankers who have ruined the whole western world also promote multiculturalism, because they want people to turn against eachother instead of turning agains the people who are truely responsible for ruining their countries.
That the well-to-do avoid such issues isn't their fault,they are simply smart enough to avoid working against their own self-interest.
They are indeed, since they are stealing from the regular citizens, and they sure as hell don't want them to find out. So let's blame the muslims, or the jews.
If the workers did likewise, politics would have to reflect that, and the problems you fear would be diminished.
BS, politics have stopped doing what people want or what's in their best interest for ages.

I wonder why I have bother replying to your bullshit. I think that with the situation you claim you have you should know how those things work, and you pretend you don't.

Nic

Re: What led to the rise of nazism is happening again in Eur

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:45 am
by callmeslick
nicolas10 wrote:Not an argument. Only something you think as a fact, but with no arguments behind it. I beleive that one should fight against multicultralism and against globalization.
not only a futile sentiment, as that genie is long out of the bottle, but my question to you is why would you want to?

Most changes have been advanced by NGOs or interest groups, quite often financed by such philantropical organisations as the Rockefeller foundation. You find the rockefeller foundation behind EVERY major feminist, or gay movement in the US, and behind the whole "sexual liberation" business. That's just an example but this is going on as of this day in France with the FEMEN, a group of Ukrainian bitches (the sole french member is actually a real prostitute) who are paint to wreck catholic demonstrations against gay marriage in France. They set up the place of the attack so the journalists wait there with cameras, and they come naked and assault the demonstrators and they start yelling like harpies when one of the few guys bitch slap them in the face after they throw stuff at them and harrass them. Those prostitutes are paid more than 1000$ a month, and all their expenses to come to France and do their shit is paid for too. By whom?
more to the point, who cares? Are you suggesting this activist group is destroying your society, or worse, causing economic harm to anyone?
1, its patently false, the societies are balkanized because of the policies of their leaders who are, in the case of Europe, not even elected, since European unelected technocrats produce 80% of the new laws in the EU, and they are copy/paste of the laws lobbies want them to pass. Which is exactly why the bankers who have ruined the whole western world also promote multiculturalism, because they want people to turn against eachother instead of turning agains the people who are truely responsible for ruining their countries.
then, why turn against other people(as you have tried to do as late) instead of working to overturn the tax policy, etc? Such behavior as you exhibit is a first rate example of choosing Balkanization, the easy route, over the effective one.



BS, politics have stopped doing what people want or what's in their best interest for ages.

I wonder why I have bother replying to your bullshit. I think that with the situation you claim you have you should know how those things work, and you pretend you don't.

Nic
the simple fact is that the working classes have, in many Western nations, grown soft and disaffected with politics, at their own peril.

Re: What led to the rise of nazism is happening again in Eur

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:31 am
by Pudfark
nicolas10 wrote:
callmeslick wrote:The multicultural society is almost a given in an increasingly globalized economy and modern communication system.
Not an argument. Only something you think as a fact, but with no arguments behind it. I beleive that one should fight against multicultralism and against globalization.
Nic
I'm in total agreement with that sentiment, Nic.

Re: What led to the rise of nazism is happening again in Eur

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:46 pm
by callmeslick
I'll ask you too, then, Pud....what is wrong with either multicultural societies, or globalization of society? Not that either is going to be denied, any more than you can stop gravity, but really, what is wrong with them. Conversely, what is gained, in the modern world, by maintaining a homogeneously ethnic society,
and limiting your economic and communications to domestic markets? Because, that is what a successful fight, as Nic and you suggest, would get you.