Whining vs. winning

[callmeslick]

You know, the more I sit back a read more here, and post less, the following has occurred to me. A lot of folks in the US, and elsewhere have developed a political philosophy based on pure negativity with no actual plan forward. Essentially, the same folks, day after day, love to badmouth Obama for this or that, but put forward ZERO in the way of ideas of how to do things better. Oh, and sorry, I don't regard simply slashing spending as much of a plan for anything save disaster. So, and you know who you are, why don't you do this: Put forth, in various threads, your plan for managing foreign policy, your plan to manage trade, your plan to control terrorism, your plan for immigration, your plan to grow the US economy(or wider economy for those abroad). Let's see your ideas, rather than subjecting us to daily whining about piddly-shit 'scandals', and faux outrage over the economy that Obama 'ruined'. For gawds sakes, at least give us something new to laugh at than your same, tired rants about liberals, Democrats, the 'elites' or whatever. Dawg actually put it well, this place HAS gotten to be a bit much at times. It's sad when I live for the football pool and little else here.......

[fatman]

love to badmouth Obama for this or that,

As a bloke with no vested interest in US politics ill say this Obama leaves himself wide open to what ever he gets. For instance he is now saying the sequester was forced on him by congress thsi from the dude who pushed it and made it known he would ensure it would go ahead, and now saying the disbaled veterans are not going to be guaranteed funding next year but hey professional dole bludgers will be golden

[callmeslick]

well, as you know, you don't understand the US process........

[fatman]

well, as you know, you don't understand the US process........

Oh dont get me wrong we deal with the same bullshit here its just no one cares

[callmeslick]

and there is the problem....no one cares enough to address the real issues. Hell, being President of the US is an easy target for cheap snipers. Still, the bottom line(last November) was that Obama offered more of substance than the other side came up with. Hell, I actually saw one Romney appearance where he said, "just get me elected in November and wait and see what we can do for the nation". I wouldn't accept that line from a salesperson, let alone someone who wanted to be President, and a majority of citizens rejected it at the polls.

[HappyHappy]

"just get me elected in November and wait and see what we can do for the nation". I wouldn't accept that line from a salesperson, let alone someone who wanted to be President, and a majority of citizens rejected it at the polls.

Hmmm, you did, and we got stuck with the sad sack incompitent Obama.
Remember Chairman Pelosi saying
“We have to pass the (health care) bill so you can find out what is in it”.

Callmeshit, as usual you slapp a big pile of shit on yer own face.

HH

[Barfly]

You know, the more I sit back a read more here, and post less, the following has occurred to me. A lot of folks in the US, and elsewhere have developed a political philosophy based on pure negativity with no actual plan forward. Essentially, the same folks, day after day, love to badmouth Obama for this or that, but put forward ZERO in the way of ideas of how to do things better. Oh, and sorry, I don't regard simply slashing spending as much of a plan for anything save disaster. So, and you know who you are, why don't you do this: Put forth, in various threads, your plan for managing foreign policy, your plan to manage trade, your plan to control terrorism, your plan for immigration, your plan to grow the US economy(or wider economy for those abroad). Let's see your ideas, rather than subjecting us to daily whining about piddly-shit 'scandals', and faux outrage over the economy that Obama 'ruined'. For gawds sakes, at least give us something new to laugh at than your same, tired rants about liberals, Democrats, the 'elites' or whatever. Dawg actually put it well, this place HAS gotten to be a bit much at times. It's sad when I live for the football pool and little else here.......

You post less because you know you aren't getting any traction here. Your dishonest debate tactics and lack of support for your positions is the problem. If you wanted honest debate, which you are probably capable of, you could present your positions in a logical fashion, provide factual support, attack other's arguments in an honest way. You don't do that, and that's a large part of the problem.

[Reservoir_Dog]

If you wanted honest debate, which you are probably capable of, you could present your positions in a logical fashion, provide factual support, attack other's arguments in an honest way.

He constantly does that.
What he gets in return is two dimensional political thinking filled with Fox news sound bites and daily "buzz" phrases on top of endless links to completely bias ultra right wing articles that the posters (you know who you are) take as gospel simply because they'll believe any amount of crap that their puppet masters shove down their throat because thinking for themselves is apparently too hard.
Any wonder why he posts less.
It ain't about gaining traction.
Pud's ice is pretty thin.

[Pudfark]

and there is the problem....no one cares enough to address the real issues. Hell, being President of the US is an easy target for cheap snipers. Still, the bottom line(last November) was that Obama offered more of substance than the other side came up with. Hell, I actually saw one Romney appearance where he said, "just get me elected in November and wait and see what we can do for the nation". I wouldn't accept that line from a salesperson, let alone someone who wanted to be President, and a majority of citizens rejected it at the polls.

So says the "kettle calling the pot black". Of course, when you took your turn, we didn't owe an extra 6 trillion dollars and we didn't have a plan to in the future to owe and extra 6-10 more trillion.

If you would just do like Barfly sez....you could be wining?
However, the way you choose to go about it? You're just whining.

[Pudfark]

@R_D

It's a hundred degrees here. No thin Ice. Here, ya either sink or swim.

Please name me one "un-biased" news source in the U.S.?
Other, than the "fair and balanced" one.