why I hate Liberals,

[Dawg]

I see Arizona is trying to pass a law if you want to be on their ballot, you have to produce a birth certificate. Guess wot? its NOT really meeting a whole lot of resistance....

PHOENIX - Ignoring warnings of illegality from their own secretary of state, most House Republicans voted Wednesday to require him to verify that presidential candidates on the Arizona ballot are, in fact, born in the United States

SB 1024 would require political parties to submit to the Arizona secretary of state "documents that prove that the candidate is a natural born citizen, prove the candidate's age and prove that the candidate meets the residency requirements for President of the United States."

*But the measure, approved 31-29 with no Democratic votes, goes even further. It gives the secretary of state the unilateral power to keep a candidate off the Arizona ballot if he or she has "reasonable cause" to believe the candidate is not qualified.

*wow, ramrodded partisan politics..how unheard of
Anyhow Obamas house of cards is falling down. I hope he finishes his term cause Biden as pres would suck.

I asked a lib friend who was the worse person to run the states, he said Rove.
I asked if Rove removed the sunset clause on the patriot act, would that be ok?
I asked if Rove took over Microsoft to make sure the company was fairly competitive would that be ok.
I asked if Rove took over some banks to make sure they didn't fail and assigned someone to over see would that be ok.

and it wasn't..........so why is it ok for your guy, if its not OK for the other guy?
Ask yourselves, if Bush were in charge NOW, would you still be unhappy with the take over of GM? The banks? Health Care? Or, would you say..m'eh, its "our team" it has to be ok, I trust them??
You extremists better realize IF Obama sets up the Fed to allow more control of this or that, what the fuck happens when a republican gets in?? Just like Bush allowed a bunch of stuff the libs didn't like, but now are enjoying, once this shit is set up, its it. game over. the next crew uses that power and adds a bit more. And a bit more, until you have England. (with respect for you poor bastards)

morons

p.s. VAT tax, coming this year, but AFTER the midterms, and thats if theres a democrat left anywhere in the country. Honestly, finding a democrat in office in the next few years will be like trying to find a nazi in germany in 1946..there were none. No one had ever been one..

[ruggbutt]

Those guys make huge fortunes out of gvt debt, which is your taxpayer money going straight to them.

What should have been done is allow them to go under because they couldn't sustain their companies. There would be plenty other banks popping up to take their place. Instead, some moron decided to tax the next 3 generations and pay off the banks for their poor behavior. How fucking stupid is that?

[Soapy]

Both Soapy and Fatman strike points that show the lunacy of Cuda's post.

And the absolute folly of folks, no matter how likeable who are seeing the States from thousands of miles away in different cultures and countries....

Not enough time to point out just how disconnect slick is, and how accurate Cuda is.

I pointed out how context is important, regardless of the subject matter mate. Has nothing to do with the USA, just about the context of a rambling post, that try as I might to make sense of it, was a load of pish.

As to how I see the States, I see a myriad of different types of people, the loudest however are usually right wing looneys whose posts on the net seem to froth with saliva and moronic inflection. Some lefties are equally as bad, and the more independant thinking people tend not to post too much as they are pissing themselves laughing at the looneys.

Honestly, I read an email to my spam account, and within days people are posting the same shite here. I signed up for some right wing US stuff in the past so I could read articles that were linked to. Now those same sources email me loads of crap all week, and it get's recycled here a few days later. Do any of you guys actually think about the stuff yourselves?

For intelligent people, you sure do seem to post the same stuff as the emails contain, it's almost as if you can't do anything else.

[Dawg]

As to how I see the States, I see a myriad of different types of people, the loudest however are usually right wing looneys whose posts on the net seem to froth with saliva and moronic inflection.

how odd, I see the loudest as out of country left wing moonbats who tend to hit the sauce before noon, and american sheep who are convinced that their chosen leaders would NEVER do wrong.
Good luck dude and maybe back off the juice a bit?

[Soapy]

As to how I see the States, I see a myriad of different types of people, the loudest however are usually right wing looneys whose posts on the net seem to froth with saliva and moronic inflection.

how odd, I see the loudest as out of country left wing moonbats who tend to hit the sauce before noon, and american sheep who are convinced that their chosen leaders would NEVER do wrong.
Good luck dude and maybe back off the juice a bit?

some one did piss in your cornflakes today eh ? Here is a task for you Dawg, find a post here that I started, that has any political intent or leaning in it whatsoever. I have posted responses in political threads, yes , but never instigated one.

How do you know if I lean left or right or up or down mate ?

left wing moonbats who tend to hit the sauce before noon

Hahaha why not, I work 4 long days so I have 3 off per week, of course I will hit the sauce whenever I feel like it. Sobriety has never been something I hold as a positive attribute. Even then, at 4 am I can still post more sense than some people here, with my eyes rolling back into my head and a smoke falling out of my mouth I can still smell the BS from the Teabaggers and Birthers and looney tuners who post so much shite here.

Sometimes yourself or Rugg or someone else, talks about the UK or Europe as a whole, as if it was one big communist/muslim paradise. This shows how insular you guys are, you only have one source of information and it is your own closed minded thinking that supplies it. You guys are not just reading from the same page, but from the same publisher.

It's a real shame that on such an open forum as this, which could be a great place to exchange opinions and information, that people who make idiots look like Plato, post the same party line pish day in and day out.

I'm going to mis quote Winny here, " yes I may be drunk, but tomorrow I will be sober, you on the other hand, will still be stupid! "

[ruggbutt]

Sometimes yourself or Rugg or someone else, talks about the UK or Europe as a whole, as if it was one big communist/muslim paradise.

Not communist so much as socialist. Sorry Soapy, ya'll have even less freedoms than we do and our gubmint is trying to take that away as well. As for the UK, people sometimes think what happens in England is endemic to the UK. Sometimes it is, sometimes it ain't. But answer me this: The muzzies are really being pain in the asses and causing problems in England, aren't they? And the gubmint there is afraid to "offend" the muzzies, aren't they?

The last two questions are rhetorical.

[Dawg]

I'm going to mis quote Winny here, " yes I may be drunk, but tomorrow I will be sober, you on the other hand, will still be stupid! "

yeah, good luck with that.
drunk today, sober tomorrow waiting to be drunk again
I base my views of the UK solely on you and gingercat, is that wrong?

[Soapy]

Sometimes yourself or Rugg or someone else, talks about the UK or Europe as a whole, as if it was one big communist/muslim paradise.

Not communist so much as socialist. Sorry Soapy, ya'll have even less freedoms than we do and our gubmint is trying to take that away as well. As for the UK, people sometimes think what happens in England is endemic to the UK. Sometimes it is, sometimes it ain't. But answer me this: The muzzies are really being pain in the asses and causing problems in England, aren't they? And the gubmint there is afraid to "offend" the muzzies, aren't they?

The last two questions are rhetorical.

Muzzies being a pain in the ass ? Yes, so are any and all minortity groups. Governement afraid to offend them ?, yes, in a political context they are, in order to make the war more palatable to the man in the street, and not seem like a crusade ( but all governments are afraid to disenfrancise any group that can sway the vote ).

I think that in the UK, we have a wholesome disdain, even for our chosen politicos, our freedoms are manifest in literature and the press, and better still in comedic satire. No one is above satire in the UK at all.

If the only news station I saw from the USA was Fox news, I'd have a different idea of the States than I do, just like if the only press you guys saw from the UK was The Sun or the Daily Mail, you would be forgiven for assuming that this country is over run with radicals.

[Soapy]

I'm going to mis quote Winny here, " yes I may be drunk, but tomorrow I will be sober, you on the other hand, will still be stupid! "

yeah, good luck with that.
drunk today, sober tomorrow waiting to be drunk again
I base my views of the UK solely on you and gingercat, is that wrong?

If you base your views just on Ginger and me, you need to get out more. The internet is huge mate, try looking outside your favourites tabs once in a while.

I get the feeling somehow, I'm not sure why ( feel the sarcasm ) that you are calling me a drunk. It may or may not be true, but, at least I'm not an asshole