I've been watching the damage control over on Fox.

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Buzz wrote:Not just my opinion. The opinion of the majority, and the CEO of Jeep. How much proof do you need before you accept it?
let me explain English for you.

Obama Won. FACT, Reality, not an Opinion.

Obama would be a better President, Opinion, nothing to compare it against no way to ever know if Romney could have or would have done a better job then the Current President.
Not just my opinion about Romney either. The majority vote proves that too. Hell, you couldn't even win Florida. Ryan couldn't even win his home turf.
and this changes an opinion to a fact how??? because you want to believe it??
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You two seem to think I just make up stuff, and that's my opinion. No, I look at the facts, before I form an opinion.
:shock: you truly are a conflicted individual
As much as you don't like it. Your opinions are with the minority, and those who don't accept the truth.make up your mind???
because my "opinion' is in the minority it remains an "opinion' but because your "opinion" is in the Majority it's all the sudden fact??????
The tea party is not the answer for America.
uhm FYI I'm not a tea party believer, another "Opinion" on your part
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Lets see if we can get back to what Romney said about Jeep. You called that my opinion. Still true?

I understand English just fine. You seem to have a hard time putting all the words together so them mean something.

Still not being condescending? Maybe you could put the definition of that in your post too.
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Buzz wrote:Lets see if we can get back to what Romney said about Jeep. You called that my opinion. Still true?
what I said was that you were ignoring that both sides did the same thing. Romney was wrong. he lost the election. FACT. now lets answer some of my questions. did Obama LIE and does he continue to LIE about Benghazi?? which "LIE" is more detrimental to the health of this nation??

I understand English just fine. You seem to have a hard time putting all the words together so them mean something.
only to you Buzz, Only to you.
Still not being condescending? Maybe you could put the definition of that in your post too.
that it your "OPINION" and your welcome to it. and my "OPINION" is that your "OPINION" is just that, truth is fact “The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it.”
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When did you become such a pain in the ass?


You don't have to quote me. I know what I said, but I grow tired of explaining it. You have your own unique way of twisting it around.


I'm done with this subject. So, expect to get ignored if you continue to post about it. Although I know you'll have to get the last word. Opinion or fact?
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Buzz wrote:When did you become such a pain in the ass?
my mom would tell you December 9 1960 :mrgreen:

You don't have to quote me. I know what I said, but I grow tired of explaining it. You have your own unique way of twisting it around.
it always seems like twisting when you dont like what you see in the Mirror

I'm done with this subject. So, expect to get ignored if you continue to post about it. Although I know you'll have to get the last word. Opinion or fact?
I'm still waiting for the answer to my questions that you have NEVER attempted to answer. but I must thank you, you completely proved my point. the truth is not important to you. all you cared was your narrative of getting Obama re-elected and defeating Romney. you don't care about the truth and you have shown that.

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CUDA wrote:"In reality, there exists only fact and fiction.
Opinions result from a lack of the former and a reliance on the latter."
You do understand that statement counts for YOUR opinions as well?
Right?
You don't understand that statement.
Fact.
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Reservoir_Dog wrote:
CUDA wrote:"In reality, there exists only fact and fiction.
Opinions result from a lack of the former and a reliance on the latter."
You do understand that statement counts for YOUR opinions as well?
Right?
You don't understand that statement.
Fact.
I understand it entirely. and your right if I was not talking about facts I would agree. but as of yet my questions have STILL not been answered. WHY??
and please show me where my facts have been wrong, show me where I ignored anything. I did address Buzz's political statement. he might not have like the time frame that I responded in or the speed or manner in which I responded, but unlike Buzz I did respond. he STILL hasn't. WHY?

there can only be a couple of reasons, and none of them reflects well on his position.


so I'll ask you the same thing I asked Buzz, what matters more to You, this Government and the People, (I know your a Canadian) a Political statement made during an Election about Jeep which was just one of dozens of distortions told by BOTH sides. or the Elected President of our Country KNOWINGLY lying to the people and the world about the failures in Benghazi that cost the lives of 4 Americans including our Ambassador and his continuing efforts to do so.

What follows is a timeline of events that we hope will help put the incident into perspective. We call attention in particular to these key facts:

There were no protesters at the Benghazi consulate prior to the attack, even though Obama and others repeatedly said the attackers joined an angry mob that had formed in opposition to the anti-Muslim film that had triggered protests in Egypt and elsewhere. The State Department disclosed this fact Oct. 9 — nearly a month after the attack.

Libya President Mohamed Magariaf insisted on Sept. 16 — five days after the attack — that it was a planned terrorist attack, but administration officials continued for days later to say there was no evidence of a planned attack.

Magariaf also said the idea that the attack was a “spontaneous protest that just spun out of control is completely unfounded and preposterous.” This, too, was on Sept. 16. Yet, Obama and others continued to describe the incident in exactly those terms — including during the president’s Sept. 18 appearance on the “Late Show With David Letterman.”

Matt Olsen, director of the National Counterterrorism Center, was the first administration official to call it “a terrorist attack” during a Sept. 19 congressional hearing. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton did the same on Sept. 20. Even so, Obama declined opportunities to call it a terrorist attack when asked at a town hall meeting on Sept. 20 and during a taping of “The View” on Sept. 24.

http://factcheck.org/2012/10/benghazi-timeline/

if all your interested in is what can further your agenda then you don't want, understand, or care to know the truth. that is ALL Buzz wanted, and still wants, and his silence on this issue speaks volumes to confirm it.
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Let me refresh your memory. I didn't vote for Obama. So, my question to you about Romney has more meaning, because i'm guessing you did vote for Romney.

With that thought in mind. Why should I answer your question about Obama? Ask slick if you want to talk about Obama.

What timeline? You never answered the question. It was just one of many of Romney's lies.

I find it hard to believe you voted for Romney. (if you did) I believe the majority voted for Romney, because they didn't want to vote for Obama. That's a horrible reason. Nobody knew which Romney would show up at the White House if he had won.

For the record. I didn't answer your question, because all the facts are out yet. The facts are plain for Romney's lies.

You sure are a crappy loser. I'm not claiming to be a winner. I'm just glad people saw Romney for what he is. That's all I wanted.
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Buzz wrote:Let me refresh your memory. I didn't vote for Obama. So, my question to you about Romney has more meaning,
Only to you.
because i'm guessing you did vote for Romney.
Yep I did because Obama is a Proven Liar :P :mrgreen: but you seem to continue to ignore that fact because it doesn't fit your Agenda
With that thought in mind. Why should I answer your question about Obama? Ask slick if you want to talk about Obama.
because your President Lied to you about an attack on our Embassy and the deaths of 4 Americans, and continues to Lie about it and cover it up. THOSE ARE THE PROVEN FACTS and you don't seem to find that as important??
I find it hard to believe you voted for Romney. (if you did)
dont find it hard at all. I Voted for Romney because of all the same reasons you chose to vote against Romney. Obama Lied, would you like me to produce a list of those lies?? I can guarantee it's 10 times larger than Romney's and much better documented.
I believe the majority voted for Romney, because they didn't want to vote for Obama. That's a horrible reason. Nobody knew which Romney would show up at the White House if he had won.
and of course you have evidence to back this up or is that just another Buzz "OPINION"
For the record. I didn't answer your question, because all the facts are out yet. The facts are plain for Romney's lies.
dont suffocate with your head in the sand. I produced a VERY small list showing Obama Lied about Benghazi, would you like me to get a larger list for you. how many lies doe it take before you consider someone a chronic liar??? 1?? 10??? 100???. it seems you have some pretty loose and one sided standard there Buzz.
I'm just glad people saw Romney for what the president Portrayed him to be. That's all I wanted.
Fixed it for ya. :mrgreen:
I know that's what you wanted. it's only taken 5 pages for you to admit it. so how about we start on phase 2 of your conversion and you admit that Obama is also a Liar. :mrgreen:
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Let me refresh your memory. I didn't vote for Obama. So, my question to you about Romney has more meaning........Only to you.
It should mean more to you, because you voted for Romney. That means you endorced a liar. I didn't endorce either one. You seem to have a hard tim absorbing that.


Because i'm guessing you did vote for Romney.
Yep I did because Obama is a Proven Liar but you seem to continue to ignore that fact because it doesn't fit your Agenda
It seems you ignore that Romney is a liar, and you voted for him. I didn't vote for either one. I guess I need to keep repeating that until you get it. How can I put this so even you can understand. How about this. The guy you backed and voted for is a liar, but you can't admit it. I think they're both liars, and I didn't vote for either one, because I don't vote for guys I don't trust.


With that thought in mind. Why should I answer your question about Obama? Ask slick if you want to talk about Obama.
because your President Lied to you about an attack on our Embassy and the deaths of 4 Americans, and continues to Lie about it and cover it up. THOSE ARE THE PROVEN FACTS and you don't seem to find that as important??
Of course I find it important, and that's why I didn't vote for him. Romney would probably have started a war by now if he was in the same position. Republicans are good at that.


I find it hard to believe you voted for Romney. (if you did)
dont find it hard at all. I Voted for Romney because of all the same reasons you chose to vote against Romney. Obama Lied, would you like me to produce a list of those lies?? I can guarantee it's 10 times larger than Romney's and much better documented.
Your opinion. Not a fact


I believe the majority voted for Romney, because they didn't want to vote for Obama. That's a horrible reason. Nobody knew which Romney would show up at the White House if he had won.
and of course you have evidence to back this up or is that just another Buzz "OPINION"
Obama won the popular vote and the electoral vote. A matter of record. Look it up. Not my opinion. Oh wait! You only count the white male vote> LOL


For the record. I didn't answer your question, because all the facts aren't out yet. The facts are plain for Romney's lies.
dont suffocate with your head in the sand. I produced a VERY small list showing Obama Lied about Benghazi, would you like me to get a larger list for you. how many lies doe it take before you consider someone a chronic liar??? 1?? 10??? 100???. it seems you have some pretty loose and one sided standard there Buzz.
Not as loose as yours is about Romney. Which I have to bring up again.....you voted for. What is your thought? I'll vote for the one that lies the least. Even if I don't know which Romney will show up for president. I like all of them.


I'm just glad people saw Romney for what he is. That's all I wanted.

I know that's what you wanted. it's only taken 5 pages for you to admit it. so how about we start on phase 2 of your conversion and you admit that Obama is also a Liar.

I already have. When will you admit that Romney is a liar, and continues to change his mind about everything. When will you admit he's controlled by the tea party. The last but most important. When will you admit that Romney would have been worse for the country than Obama. Just like the majority of the country showed.

I'm guessing you'll never admit any of those things, because Romney has you hooked. You still buying that swamp property?


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